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Post by kirei88 Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:33 pm

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sa mga gustong matuto sa stock market,UNIT INVESTMENT TRUST FUND,MUTUAL FUND,budgeting and money management.
May seminar po this coming June sa Bucheon lang po. pakitype lng po number nyo sa baba. Ito po ang investment vehicle na hnd natatalo ng inflation.
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Post by moderator101 Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:33 pm

Try to invest in GOLD much more secure than stock market.
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Post by dericko Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:32 pm

wow..pwede sali ako..010-2288-0478
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Post by kirei88 Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:33 pm

ano name mo?PINOY STOCK MARKET INVESTORS IN KOREA , pa-add nlng sa group.
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Post by kirei88 Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:46 pm

moderator101 wrote:Try to invest in GOLD much more secure than stock market.


maganda nga mag-invest ng gold dahil nag-aapreciate ang value kya lang need mo din idiversify ang assets mo. ex.may 1M ka
lahat ba ibibili mo ng gold? ung gold maganda lang yan sa marunong maghandle o magtago.kung careless ka tapos nawala ang gold mo, hnd p rin secure,kung nahablot lalo ng hindi secure.kung sinangla mo at hndi mo na natubos lalo na, parang pinamigay mo na ang gold mo.unlike sa stock market kumikita ka thru dividend and price appreciation. lahat naman ng investment may kasamang risk.
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Post by kirei88 Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:49 pm

at secure din naman kung mag-iinvest ka sa mga blue chips company like ayala,sm,jollibee,PLDT,Globe..sa tingin mo ba mababankrupt ang mga company na to?
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Post by kirei88 Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:15 pm

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stock market portfolio in COL. kakastart ko lang
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Post by kirei88 Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:21 pm

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bpi UITF conservative type
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Post by moderator101 Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:20 am

quote="kirei88"]
moderator101 wrote:Try to invest in GOLD much more secure than stock market.


maganda nga mag-invest ng gold dahil nag-aapreciate ang value kya lang need mo din idiversify ang assets mo. ex.may 1M ka
lahat ba ibibili mo ng gold? ung gold maganda lang yan sa marunong maghandle o magtago.kung careless ka tapos nawala ang gold mo, hnd p rin secure,kung nahablot lalo ng hindi secure.kung sinangla mo at hndi mo na natubos lalo na, parang pinamigay mo na ang gold mo.unlike sa stock market kumikita ka thru dividend and price appreciation. lahat naman ng investment may kasamang risk. [/quote]

Iha I think I am well informed about stock market.. I know about compounding I studied that 1 long tym before u I think.. I know the goal to beat inflation on a volatile market.. u wer saying on ur example about a million being bought to gold.  How about this...try it in 1 day buy 1million worth of stocks if it is wise enough for u.. in stock market u hav to engage long term pra kumita in a minimum span of 15 years the longer the better and u have to buy the stock in the lowest possible price.. buying stocks in 1 tym lampsum is not a wise thing to do.. and ang babaw nmn cguro ng pag iisip kung idisplay mu yung investment mu pra mahablot ng snatcher o di kya e misplace  mu ung tinuturing mung kayamanan..and if ma sangla mu atleast n serve ung purpose of ur investment in tyms of needs..


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Post by moderator101 Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:50 pm

R at secure econan kung mag-iinvest ka sa mga blue chips company like ayala,sm,jollibee,PLDT,Globe..sa tingin mo ba mababankrupt ang mga company na to?[/quote]

Let me clarrify im not against in stocks.. all im saying that there r other option beside stocks which I think is much better that stocks..
And yes they r giants on what u called blue chips company no question about that.. but my question for you is that did u buy the lowest possible price that they offer n d ka lugi sa pag bili? And how did u know na di mahal ung bili mu ng stock on a particular time? U hav to remember they r giants in the industry d nmn cguro lolobo cla ng ganon kung d cla marurunong mag binta ng share of stocks nla n d cla kikita sau.. but anyways maganda yan pra sa economy ntin.. b cautious nlng s mga aspiring investors there's a lot of infornation in the net on how to invest in stock market do some research first before u invest pra d maging donation ung pera..
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Post by kirei88 Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:28 am

moderator101 wrote:R at secure econan kung mag-iinvest ka sa mga blue chips company like ayala,sm,jollibee,PLDT,Globe..sa tingin mo ba mababankrupt ang mga company na to?

Let me clarrify im not against in stocks.. all im saying that there r other option beside stocks which I think is much better that stocks..
And yes they r giants on what u called blue chips company no question about that.. but my question for you is that did u buy the lowest possible price that they offer n d ka lugi sa pag bili? And how did u know na di mahal ung bili mu ng stock on a particular time? U hav to remember they r giants in the industry d nmn cguro lolobo cla ng ganon kung d cla marurunong mag binta ng share of stocks nla n d cla kikita sau.. but anyways maganda yan pra sa economy ntin.. b cautious nlng s mga aspiring investors there's a lot of infornation in the net on how to invest in stock market do some research first before   u invest pra d maging donation ung pera..[/quote]

Kaya po magcoconduct ng seminar para sa mga bagong investor. buy low and sell high,yan naman ang strategy ng mga investor o kaya bili ka ngayon ng shares after 5years dun mo ibibenta.hindi mo naman siguro ibebenta shares mo kung alam mo lugi ka at kikita ka naman thru dividend and price appreciation. tama kailangan nga ng research kaya ako nagmutual fund and UITF muna ako bago stock investing.
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Post by moderator101 Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:47 am

A plenty of seminars, lectures kailang ng aspiring investors pra ma enlightened about sa stocks.. d kpa nag uumpisa gumagastos kna Imagine this most of the finacial guru's, speakers rate per hour is 50k php that is per HOUR.. sh*t isang buwang sahod ku kung wlang ot 1 hr lng nla..kakalungkot nmn pra sa information na libre nmn sa google at kung tamad mag basa sa youtube dami tutorial..
But choice yan ng bawat isa.. Nevertheless Im still glad nagkakaron na ng finacial literacy ang marami s atin..
Buy low sell high strategy kamu? mag engage s stock trading? isip isip muna kabayan hndi ganyan yan kadali dami na mas experienced stock brookers na lugi dyan pag nag engage sa trading..try to ask edward lee at bro. Bo..
Buy now then sell it after 5yrs kamu? buy and hold strategy tawag dyan. 5yrs tym hndi guaranteed kita dyan u need a much longer period of tym try nyo ask sa finacial coach nyo.. for beginners tlga n gusto mg invest sa stocks try nyo nlng peso cost averaging strategy but u hv to buy stocks regularly for a quiet period of time.. gud luck nlang sau warren buffet... sna magaling ung pofolio manager nakuha mu pra s mutual fund mu..
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Post by mell1275 Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:26 pm

ayos bro, laki sahod mo ha 50k talaga

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Post by kirei88 Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:40 pm

moderator101 wrote:A plenty of seminars, lectures kailang ng aspiring investors pra ma enlightened about sa stocks.. d kpa nag uumpisa gumagastos kna Imagine this most of the finacial guru's, speakers rate per hour is 50k php that is per HOUR.. sh*t isang buwang sahod ku kung wlang ot 1 hr lng nla..kakalungkot nmn pra sa information na libre nmn sa google at kung tamad mag basa sa youtube dami tutorial..
But choice yan ng bawat isa.. Nevertheless Im still glad nagkakaron na ng finacial literacy ang marami s atin..
Buy low sell high strategy kamu? mag engage s stock trading? isip isip muna kabayan hndi ganyan yan kadali dami na mas experienced stock brookers na lugi dyan pag nag engage sa trading..try to ask edward lee at bro. Bo..
Buy now then sell it after 5yrs kamu? buy and hold strategy tawag dyan. 5yrs tym hndi guaranteed kita dyan u need a much longer period of tym try nyo ask sa finacial coach nyo.. for beginners tlga n gusto mg invest sa stocks try nyo nlng peso cost averaging strategy but u hv to buy stocks regularly for a quiet period of time.. gud luck nlang sau warren buffet... sna magaling ung pofolio manager nakuha mu pra s mutual fund mu..

magkaiba naman tyo ng mindset,kung sa tingin mo malulugi ka sa stock market,malulugi ka talaga dahil yan ang thinking mo.hnd nmn lahat ng tao makitid ang utak. mgkaiba nmn ang TRADER sa INVESTOR, ang trader bili ngyon benta mamaya o bukas,ang investor bili ngyon benta 1-5years depende sa goal mo.kaya pala c BO sanchez ini-encourage nya ang lahat na mg-invest sa stock markket diba,kya ang dami nyang libro about stock market,siguro nalugi ka dahil trader ka.madami nmn nalugi sa stock market,kung wla ka alam at ndadala k lng at bumili sa naghahype n mga compny tpos biglang bumaba ang price tapos binenta mo jan ka lugi.


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Post by kirei88 Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:49 pm

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itong equity ko,3k monthly peso cost averaging,hindi nmn siguro masama kung kumikita ako ng 21k diba. ako kahit may alam n ako sa stock market,umaattend prin ako ng mga seminar para additional knowledge para may malalaman ka sa mga batikan sa stock market.hnd pwersahan ang pagsali ng seminar kung sino lang ung gusto.pamasahe lang nmn ng mga speaker ung pambayad sa seminar.nsa sa inyo un!
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Post by kirei88 Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:13 pm

manood po kayo ng ANC on the money sa youtube sa mga gustong matuto,o video ni BO Sanchez at ni Francisco Colayco. ako ,president ng Bucheon Migrant Filipino Community na si Mr Marlon Albao at iba pa. tumutulong lang po kmi na magkaroon ng seminar dito sa South Korea ng Financial literacy. Dahil karamihan po ng mga kababayan natin dito kung gumastos parang wala ng bukas, "one day millionare" ika nga.bili ng gadget dto hnd p makuntento sa isa,may cp na may laptop pa,,may tablet at may ipod pa.inom dto babae doon. kapag tapos na ang contract nganga at hnd mkpgsimula ng negosyo dahil wlang naipundar at walang naipon.hnd matanggap tangap sa trbaho dhil overage na,sisihin pa ang gobyerno kung wla silng makitang trbaho. yan ang reyalidad ng mga OFW na hnd marunong maghandle ng pera.
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Post by moderator101 Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:04 am

kirei88 wrote:
moderator101 wrote:A plenty of seminars, lectures ang kailangan ng aspiring investors pra ma enlightened about sa stocks.. d kpa nag uumpisa gumagastos kna Imagine this most of the finacial guru's, speakers rpe per hour is 50k php that is per HOUR.. sh*t isang buwang sahod ku kung wlang ot 1 hr lng nla..kakalungkot nmn pra sa information na libre nmn sa google at kung tamad mag basa sa youtube dami tutorial..
But choice yan ng bawat isa.. Nevertheless Im still glad nagkakaron na ng finacial literacy ang marami s atin..
Buy low sell high strategy kamu? mag engage s stock trading? isip isip muna kabayan hndi ganyan yan kadali dami na mas experienced stock brookers na lugi dyan pag nag engage sa trading..try to ask edward lee at bro. Bo..
Buy now then sell it after 5yrs kamu? buy and hold strategy tawag dyan. 5yrs tym hndi guaranteed kita dyan u need a much longer period of tym try nyo ask sa finacial coach nyo.. for beginners tlga n gusto mg invest sa stocks try nyo nlng peso cost averaging strategy but u hv to buy stocks regularly for a quiet period of time.. gud luck nlang sau warren buffet... sna magaling ung pofolio manager nakuha mu pra s mutual fund mu..

magkaiba naman tyo ng mindset,kung sa tingin mo malulugi ka sa stock market,malulugi ka talaga dahil yan ang thinking mo.hnd nmn lahat ng tao makitid ang utak. mgkaiba nmn ang TRADER sa INVESTOR, ang trader bili ngyon benta mamaya o bukas,ang investor bili ngyon benta 1-5years depende sa goal mo.kaya pala c BO sanchez ini-encourage nya ang lahat na mg-invest sa stock markket diba,kya ang dami nyang libro about stock market,siguro nalugi ka dahil trader ka.madami nmn nalugi sa stock market,kung wla ka alam at ndadala k lng at bumili sa naghahype n mga compny tpos biglang bumaba ang price tapos binenta mo jan ka lugi.

Mindset..mindset..mindset.. correct mindset yan ung first topic sa mga lectures and seminars about sa stock market.. wow.. finally my kunting sense na words natin mr. President about sa stock preveiwsly kc prang weightless..even though most of the words r excerpts from youtube videos but still I am impressed.. n pa research kta tuloy mr. President and for just 1 day sa pag  browse sa youtube u gain something for that I do congratulate u mr. President congratz pu at broadcast nyo pu agad na totonan ne relay ba..hehe Hmn.. I am very sorry to disappoint u mr. President hindi pu aku naging trader at lalong lalo n po n hindi po aku n lugi.. nka ugalian ku n pu kc na aralin muna ang mga bagay bagay n papasukin ku every peso counts for me pu kc ganun pu ugali ku.. tama pu kau iba pu mindset ku kya ibang level ng playing feild nilalaro ku.. s ngaun pu mahihirapan pu kau mka relate..But in due tym pu anu.. my special talent po pla kau mr. President kya nyo po pla mg fabricate ng kwento...tama po kau we should not be contented on what we have learned today sa youtube we should crave for more knowledge about sa stocks we barely scratch the surface of it.. So sa equity nyu pu gumamit pu kau ng peso cost averaging? Hmn.. at kumita pu agad kau ng 21k WOW...congratz pu gud luck nlang pu  sa mga hihingi ng balato lalo n alam n pu nla ngaun..
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moderator101 wrote:
kirei88 wrote:
moderator101 wrote:A plenty of seminars, lectures ang kailangan ng aspiring investors pra ma enlightened about sa stocks.. d kpa nag uumpisa gumagastos kna Imagine this most of the finacial guru's, speakers rpe per hour is 50k php that is per HOUR.. sh*t isang buwang sahod ku kung wlang ot 1 hr lng nla..kakalungkot nmn pra sa information na libre nmn sa google at kung tamad mag basa sa youtube dami tutorial..
But choice yan ng bawat isa.. Nevertheless Im still glad nagkakaron na ng finacial literacy ang marami s atin..
Buy low sell high strategy kamu? mag engage s stock trading? isip isip muna kabayan hndi ganyan yan kadali dami na mas experienced stock brookers na lugi dyan pag nag engage sa trading..try to ask edward lee at bro. Bo..
Buy now then sell it after 5yrs kamu? buy and hold strategy tawag dyan. 5yrs tym hndi guaranteed kita dyan u need a much longer period of tym try nyo ask sa finacial coach nyo.. for beginners tlga n gusto mg invest sa stocks try nyo nlng peso cost averaging strategy but u hv to buy stocks regularly for a quiet period of time.. gud luck nlang sau warren buffet... sna magaling ung pofolio manager nakuha mu pra s mutual fund mu..

magkaiba naman tyo ng mindset,kung sa tingin mo malulugi ka sa stock market,malulugi ka talaga dahil yan ang thinking mo.hnd nmn lahat ng tao makitid ang utak. mgkaiba nmn ang TRADER sa INVESTOR, ang trader bili ngyon benta mamaya o bukas,ang investor bili ngyon benta 1-5years depende sa goal mo.kaya pala c BO sanchez ini-encourage nya ang lahat na mg-invest sa stock markket diba,kya ang dami nyang libro about stock market,siguro nalugi ka dahil trader ka.madami nmn nalugi sa stock market,kung wla ka alam at ndadala k lng at bumili sa naghahype n mga compny tpos biglang bumaba ang price tapos binenta mo jan ka lugi.

Mindset..mindset..mindset.. correct mindset yan ung first topic sa mga lectures and seminars about sa stock market.. wow.. finally my kunting sense na words natin mr. President about sa stock preveiwsly kc prang weightless..even though most of the words r excerpts from youtube videos but still I am impressed.. n pa research kta tuloy mr. President and for just 1 day sa pag  browse sa youtube u gain something for that I do congratulate u mr. President congratz pu at broadcast nyo pu agad na totonan ne relay ba..hehe Hmn.. I am very sorry to disappoint u mr. President hindi pu aku naging trader at lalong lalo n po n hindi po aku n lugi.. nka ugalian ku n pu kc na aralin muna ang mga bagay bagay n papasukin ku every peso counts for me pu kc ganun pu ugali ku.. tama pu kau iba pu mindset ku kya ibang level ng playing feild nilalaro ku.. s ngaun pu mahihirapan pu kau mka relate..But in due tym pu anu.. my special talent po pla kau mr. President kya nyo po pla mg fabricate ng kwento...tama po kau we should not be contented on what we have learned today sa youtube we should crave for more knowledge about sa stocks we barely scratch the surface of it.. So sa equity nyu pu gumamit pu kau ng peso cost averaging? Hmn.. at kumita pu agad kau ng 21k WOW...congratz pu gud luck nlang pu  sa mga hihingi ng balato lalo n alam n pu nla ngaun..

hindi ako president ng filipino community,pakireread ng post ko hahaha,at FYI Mr moderator,hindi ako nagresearch dahil alam ko n yan 5years ago,lagi ako nagbabasa ng books ni Bo sanchez.at nanghinayang ako sa time na hnd ako nagstart agad sa stock investment.
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Post by kirei88 Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:23 am

ilan lang naman ang dahilan bkit ka against sa stock market:

1. -25kwon ng fee ng seminar gusto mo libre,wla nmn masama kung mag-research ka at gumawa ka ng sarili mong strategy pra madagdagan assets mo.

2. mindset mo na malugi -kaya lhat ng mga newbies need muna ang emergency fund bago sumabak sa stock market para maiwasan ang pagkalugi.hnd ibebenta kpg bumaba ang ekonomiya.
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Post by moderator101 Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:14 pm

"kirei88"]manood po kayo ng ANC on the money sa youtube sa mga gustong matuto,o video ni BO Sanchez at ni Francisco Colayco. ako ,president ng Bucheon Migrant Filipino Community na si Mr Marlon Albao at  iba pa. tumutulong lang po kmi na magkaroon ng seminar dito sa South Korea ng Financial literacy. Dahil karamihan po ng mga  kababayan natin dito kung gumastos parang wala ng bukas, "one day millionare" ika nga.bili ng gadget dto hnd p makuntento sa isa,may cp na may laptop pa,,may tablet at may ipod pa.inom dto babae doon. kapag tapos na ang contract nganga at hnd mkpgsimula ng negosyo dahil wlang naipundar at walang naipon.hnd matanggap tangap sa trbaho dhil overage na,sisihin pa ang gobyerno kung wla silng makitang trbaho. yan ang reyalidad ng mga OFW na hnd marunong maghandle ng pera.[/quote]

aku ,president ng Bucheon

aku at ang president ng Bucheon

Now I get it...
It so funny nandadamay kpa ibang tao..
At level up mu pa srili mu..
Ur none sense to argue with finacial guru..
Just a waste of time..
5 yrs kna my alam and u read books of bro. Bo?
Kwento mu sa batang kalye Bigyan mu n rin ng candy at piso pra maniwala sau..
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Post by kirei88 Sat May 17, 2014 8:54 pm

moderator101 wrote:"kirei88"]manood po kayo ng ANC on the money sa youtube sa mga gustong matuto,o video ni BO Sanchez at ni Francisco Colayco. ako ,president ng Bucheon Migrant Filipino Community na si Mr Marlon Albao at  iba pa. tumutulong lang po kmi na magkaroon ng seminar dito sa South Korea ng Financial literacy. Dahil karamihan po ng mga  kababayan natin dito kung gumastos parang wala ng bukas, "one day millionare" ika nga.bili ng gadget dto hnd p makuntento sa isa,may cp na may laptop pa,,may tablet at may ipod pa.inom dto babae doon. kapag tapos na ang contract nganga at hnd mkpgsimula ng negosyo dahil wlang naipundar at walang naipon.hnd matanggap tangap sa trbaho dhil overage na,sisihin pa ang gobyerno kung wla silng makitang trbaho. yan ang reyalidad ng mga OFW na hnd marunong maghandle ng pera.

aku ,president ng Bucheon

aku at ang president ng Bucheon

Now I get it...
It so funny nandadamay kpa ibang tao..
At level up mu pa srili mu..
Ur none sense to argue with finacial guru..
Just a waste of time..
5 yrs kna my alam and u read books of bro. Bo?
Kwento mu sa batang kalye Bigyan mu n rin ng candy at piso pra maniwala sau..
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hahaha,bitter ka!!! hahaha kung ayaw mo mag-invest at umattend ng seminar eh di hwag,hnd ko nmn kawalan un.mag-invest ka lng ng gold punuin mo buong bahay mo!!lol bakit nadali ko ba ego mo?kaya gnun ka kabitter!!ung interesado lang na umattend.ung isang kgaya mo na makitid ang utak ang walang maniwala hahaha!,bitterrrr.


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Post by kirei88 Sat May 17, 2014 8:55 pm

https://www.facebook.com/groups/320293691443810/ yan tingnan mo,kung hnd ba ako nandamay ng tao,ikaw moderator 101,bitter!!!
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Post by kirei88 Sat May 17, 2014 9:08 pm

kirei88 wrote:
moderator101 wrote:"kirei88"]manood po kayo ng ANC on the money sa youtube sa mga gustong matuto,o video ni BO Sanchez at ni Francisco Colayco. ako ,president ng Bucheon Migrant Filipino Community na si Mr Marlon Albao at  iba pa. tumutulong lang po kmi na magkaroon ng seminar dito sa South Korea ng Financial literacy. Dahil karamihan po ng mga  kababayan natin dito kung gumastos parang wala ng bukas, "one day millionare" ika nga.bili ng gadget dto hnd p makuntento sa isa,may cp na may laptop pa,,may tablet at may ipod pa.inom dto babae doon. kapag tapos na ang contract nganga at hnd mkpgsimula ng negosyo dahil wlang naipundar at walang naipon.hnd matanggap tangap sa trbaho dhil overage na,sisihin pa ang gobyerno kung wla silng makitang trbaho. yan ang reyalidad ng mga OFW na hnd marunong maghandle ng pera.

aku ,president ng Bucheon

aku at ang president ng Bucheon

Now I get it...
It so funny nandadamay kpa ibang tao..
At level up mu pa srili mu..
Ur none sense to argue with finacial guru..
Just a waste of time..
5 yrs kna my alam and u read books of bro. Bo?
Kwento mu sa batang kalye Bigyan mu n rin ng candy at piso pra maniwala sau..

hahaha,bitter ka!!! hahaha kung ayaw mo mag-invest at umattend ng seminar eh di hwag,hnd ko nmn kawalan un.mag-invest ka lng ng gold punuin mo buong bahay mo!!lol bakit nadali ko ba ego mo?kaya gnun ka kabitter!!ung interesado lang na umattend.ung isang kgaya mo na makitid ang utak ang walang maniwala hahaha!,bitterrrr.[/quote][img]seminar in stock market 14tc83s[/img]
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Post by kirei88 Sat May 17, 2014 9:13 pm

[img]seminar in stock market E7nhfk[/img]ito gain ko,bitter !!!!
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Post by kirei88 Sat May 17, 2014 9:17 pm

https://www.facebook.com/groups/320293691443810/yan tingnan mo yan Mr MODERATOR 101,kung nandamay ba ako ng tao.at punta ka sa ojeongdong church sa Bucheon dun gaganapin ang seminar baka gusto mong umattend Mr bitter!!!!
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