Vietnamese wife beaten to death by South Korean husband

Vietnamese wife beaten to death by South Korean husband

Last updated: 7/12/2010 20:50

Thach Thi Hong Ngoc, 20, with her South Korean husband Jang, 47. Ngoc was found dead in her South Korean home last Wednesday

A Vietnamese bride was killed by her South Korean husband last Wednesday (July 7), less than a fortnight after she joined him in Korea.

Thach Sang and his wife Truong Thi Ut were told last Friday by the Foreign Affairs Department of the southern province of Can Tho that their 20-year-old daughter, Thach Thi Hong Ngoc, was beaten to death by her 47-year-old husband Jang Do Hyo.

According to the Korean Times, police in Busan found Ngoc dead in her husband’s home on July 7. They arrested him two days later, suspecting that he had beaten and stabbed her.

Jang reportedly told the police he was instructed by ghosts to kill his wife. His young bride had come to South Korea without knowing the language or the husband’s history of mental problems, the paper reported.

But Ngoc's parents said she had learnt some Korean after the wedding.

Five years ago, Jang had attacked his mother. The mother said he'd suffered heavy depression since he turned 40 but had stopped using medicines after the wedding, the Korean Times reported.

A friend of Ngoc who had been to Korea earlier said she had seen photos of Ngoc’s body on local television showing her lying in a pool of blood, Ngoc’s parents said.

The marriage broker, whose name has not been released, had called the family saying that Jang had slapped Ngoc in the face and she had fallen on a pointed object on the floor that cut her through a scar she'd had after her appendix surgery.

But Sang said Ngoc had never undergone any appendix surgery.

Ngoc's mother Ut said her daughter had met Jang on February 7 via a brokerage firm whose name was not released, and their wedding was organized ten days later in Ho Chi Minh City.

Before the wedding, Jang’s family gave Ngoc’s family VND3.8 million (US$199), of which they spent VND1.8 million on renting a car to take the family to HCMC. Jang gave Sang and Ut $500 after the wedding.

Ut said she saw her daughter the last time on the day after the wedding. Then the couple stayed in HCMC before flying for Korea on June 30.

On July 1, Ngoc called home saying she was doing fine, but she did not call home after that. No one answered the phone when the parents called the groom’s house, Ut said.

“My family was poor so we agreed to let her go, hoping that she would be happy. Now ... I hurt like a knife cutting my heart. I feel sorry that I let her go so far and die in another country,” said Sang, the father of five children.

The parents came to the South Korean Embassy in Ho Chi Minh City on Monday to make enquiries and prepare to fly to South Korea and take Ngoc’s body home.

A representative from the embassy on Monday told Vnexpress they will pay for the flight tickets and other services during the parents’ trip.

The Can Tho Women’s Association sent a note to the Central Women’s Association to help with procedures so that the parents can leave quickly.

Ngoc's death is preceded by other incidents of violence that
Vietnamese brides have been subjected to in South Korea.

In 2007, Huynh Mai from the Mekong Delta’s Kien Giang Province was beaten to death by her drunken husband two months after she went to live with him in South Korea.

The couple were introduced by an international marriage broker in December 2006.

Over the last two decades, poverty has driven thousands of women from poor families, especially the Mekong Delta, to marry older men, mainly from South Korea and Taiwan, despite language and cultural barriers.

Recent South Korean statistics show that up to 20,523 Vietnamese women have married South Korean men, the second highest proportion of foreign brides in the country.

Many of them, however, find themselves alienated due to language barriers and a lack of cultural understanding.

source:::::: http://www.thanhniennews.com/2010/Pages/20100712205751.aspx

The National Human Rights Commission of Korea has called on the government to overhaul related laws and systems to enhance the rights of foreign wives.

The suggestion comes after a Vietnamese woman was recently killed by her South Korean husband just a week after their marriage.

The commission on Friday noted that providing and receiving basic information on one's future spouse is an essential precondition for marriage.

The commission said that the Vietnamese woman was not provided sufficient information on her future husband, such as his health conditions, and thus her rights to decide on her marriage were severely restricted.

The Women Migrants Human Rights Center also issued a statement urging the government to improve related system and laws to prevent a recurrence.


kailngan pabang may magsakripisyo ng buhay tsaka lamang gagawa ng action ang gobyernong bulag, ito ba ang tinutukoy nilang korea is a multi cultural country...... ALAM NABA NG ATIN GOBYERNO kung anu ang ginagawa sa mga kababayan kong mga pilipina ,mga korean spouses???may nabalitaan ka naba ang mga namatay na pinay?mga sinasaktang mga korean spouses ,physically and emotionally..hayzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.. kung madidinig lang nila ang mga sakripisyong dinadanas nila ngaun ,,wla na sigurong maraming mga tnt pinay na nagmula sa korean marriage na ngaun ay mas maginhawa ang buhay bilang tnt kaysa sa stressful na korean marriage life.... di ganun kadali mag asawa ng korean,,kaya magingat po kau sa mga recruiter jan sa pilipinas,,di po madali ang papsukin ng isang korean wife....wag po kau magpadala sa maliit na pera-baka abnormal pa mapangasawa ninyong korea(AB minor) or worst (AB Major) kadalasan maraming peke sa kasal ng korean ang nagagnap jan sa pinas ,mga palsipikadong documento...

para po sa ginagalang naming Mr.Ambasaddor LUIS T. CRUZ, tagal napo ng problema ito pero hanggang ngaun marami at patuluy parin ang ganitong sistema! saan puba nanggagaling ang mga sangkot dito??sindikato puba ito?meron po tayong mga live interview(documentary po sa mga kababayan kong pinay dito na aking hinahawakan kung gusto nyong mapakinggan, mapanuod at maliban pa jan sa kasong hinahawakan ninyong kasalukuyan at sa di mabilang na mga insidente ng panloloko sa pinas upang makapagrecruit ng mga batang pinay upang i fixed marriage. Ito ba ang isang paraan ng gobyernong korea upang sila ay dumami dahil sa kakunting bilang ng korean at paubos at paliit na population ng korean race,ang mag recruit ng mga inosenteng pinay kapalit ng pagdami nila sa susunud na na 2020? hayzzzz

Kristine (not her real name), a 25-year-old Filipina, decided to run away from her Korean husband of five years after he tried to strangle her last April. She endured years of occasional physical abuse, but could no longer live with a man who nearly killed her.

Another Filipina, 35-year-old Carla (not her real name) found herself widowed only two months after being married to her Korean husband. However, her husband�s family refused to give her any assistance and evicted her from her husband�s home.

Another Filipina did not even realize her husband had divorced her until the divorce papers arrived at her doorstep.

These cases may seem extreme, but these cases of abuse and hardship are not unique to Filipina wives of Korean men. There are dozens of foreign wives, whether Chinese or Vietnamese or other nationalities, who ran away after having experienced physical and verbal abuse at the hands of their Korean husbands. Others may have found themselves divorced and alone in Korea, and living in fear of being deported.

It�s these kinds of problems that prompted the Filipino Korean Spouses Association-Korea to seek more rights for foreign wives of Korean husbands.

The association recently presented a petition entitled “Foreign Korean wives demands justice and equal rights,�� signed by 116 women, to the Philippine Embassy in Seoul.

Fe S. Kim, president of the Filipino Korean Spouses Association-Korea, said a Manila-based non-government organization (NGO) had earlier interviewed several Filipina wives to discuss problems with living with their Korean husbands.

“The NGO asked for our help, so we gathered the information to see what were the main problems and how to fight this kind of problem. We are not looking for a perfect solution but how to lessen it,�� she said in an interview with The Korea Times.

With the increase in the number of foreign women getting married to Korean men, Kim noted there are also many incidents of domestic abuse. Some of these problems may be rooted in the mail-order bride industry, where Filipinas are recruited as wives to Korean men. Kim noted some of the Filipinas may have been “victims of circumstance,�� but some mail-order brides may have also been “willing victims�.

Among the common complaints from the Filipina wives are domestic violence, forced sex, threats of deportation and lack of financial support.

Based on the interviews conducted by the NGO, Kim said they have compiled the petition for proposed reforms that are aimed to give more protection to foreign spouses of Koreans.

This includes the right to Korean citizenship after two years of residency in Korea, whether they are still married or divorced; and the right to equal economic opportunity.

“Application for Korean citizenship should not be at the mercy of their Korean husbands who use this as their weapons to abuse (blackmail) their wives,?the petition stated.

The petition also noted any divorce application filed by Korean spouses should be first investigated before the petition is granted, since there are many cases of foreign wives who are unaware they were already divorced by their husbands.

“If divorce is granted, the men should pay a monthly alimony to their wives and children, as well as giving them security of abode,� it stated.

The petition proposed that the Korean government create a special body or court to hear cases of foreign wives who file cases of domestic violence or marital rape against their husbands.

Lastly, the petition proposed that a course on the Korean language and culture be given to foreign women before getting married to Korean men. Korean men should also learn about their wives� cultures and languages before getting married.

“These may not lessen cases of domestic violence, but it will give them both ample time to think before plunging into marriage. In any intercultural marriage, differences in norms, values, expectations and habits may lead to tension and conflict,� it said.

When asked about the petition, Philippine Ambassador to Seoul Aladdin Villacorte said he will have to carefully study the proposals from the association. He noted the proposals would affect not just Filipina wives, but all foreign wives, so it would need careful consideration by the proper Korean authorities.

Root of Problem

Kim, who is married to a Korean herself, said the problems are not just with Korean husbands. “If some of the Korean husbands have their faults, the Filipina wives also have their faults. It goes both ways,� she said.

Fr. Raymundo T. Sabio, chaplain of the Inchon Catholic International Community, has been in Korea for more than 10 years and has counseled many Filipinas who are married to Korean men.

In an interview with The Korea Times, Sabio said most of the problems between Korean-Filipina couples are because of cultural differences.

“Filipinas come here expecting their lives with their Korean husbands to be easy, but they encounter difficulties� In Philippine culture, women are treated differently. Women are put on a pedestal, and they are meant to be respected as ladies and mothers. In Korea, the women�s job is to take care of the husband, the house and the children,� he said.

Sabio said there are many problems are faced by those Filipinas who marry Koreans without any background about the language and culture. These are usually those Filipinas who marry Korean men through the Unification Church or mail-order bride agencies.

While the tales of abuse and heartbreak at the hands of Korean men grab headlines, Sabio noted there are also Koreans and Filipinas who end up happily married. He said these happy marriages are usually between couples who know about each others� culture and language.

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/11567/foreign-spouses-in-korea-speak-out-on-their-right

Kristine (not her real name), a 25-year-old Filipina, decided to run away from her Korean husband of five years after he tried to strangle her last April. She endured years of occasional physical abuse, but could no longer live with a man who nearly killed her.

Another Filipina, 35-year-old Carla (not her real name) found herself widowed only two months after being married to her Korean husband. However, her husband�s family refused to give her any assistance and evicted her from her husband�s home.

Another Filipina did not even realize her husband had divorced her until the divorce papers arrived at her doorstep.

These cases may seem extreme, but these cases of abuse and hardship are not unique to Filipina wives of Korean men. There are dozens of foreign wives, whether Chinese or Vietnamese or other nationalities, who ran away after having experienced physical and verbal abuse at the hands of their Korean husbands. Others may have found themselves divorced and alone in Korea, and living in fear of being deported.

It�s these kinds of problems that prompted the Filipino Korean Spouses Association-Korea to seek more rights for foreign wives of Korean husbands.

The association recently presented a petition entitled “Foreign Korean wives demands justice and equal rights,�� signed by 116 women, to the Philippine Embassy in Seoul.

Fe S. Kim, president of the Filipino Korean Spouses Association-Korea, said a Manila-based non-government organization (NGO) had earlier interviewed several Filipina wives to discuss problems with living with their Korean husbands.

“The NGO asked for our help, so we gathered the information to see what were the main problems and how to fight this kind of problem. We are not looking for a perfect solution but how to lessen it,�� she said in an interview with The Korea Times.

With the increase in the number of foreign women getting married to Korean men, Kim noted there are also many incidents of domestic abuse. Some of these problems may be rooted in the mail-order bride industry, where Filipinas are recruited as wives to Korean men. Kim noted some of the Filipinas may have been “victims of circumstance,�� but some mail-order brides may have also been “willing victims�.

Among the common complaints from the Filipina wives are domestic violence, forced sex, threats of deportation and lack of financial support.

Based on the interviews conducted by the NGO, Kim said they have compiled the petition for proposed reforms that are aimed to give more protection to foreign spouses of Koreans.

This includes the right to Korean citizenship after two years of residency in Korea, whether they are still married or divorced; and the right to equal economic opportunity.

“Application for Korean citizenship should not be at the mercy of their Korean husbands who use this as their weapons to abuse (blackmail) their wives,?the petition stated.

The petition also noted any divorce application filed by Korean spouses should be first investigated before the petition is granted, since there are many cases of foreign wives who are unaware they were already divorced by their husbands.

“If divorce is granted, the men should pay a monthly alimony to their wives and children, as well as giving them security of abode,� it stated.

The petition proposed that the Korean government create a special body or court to hear cases of foreign wives who file cases of domestic violence or marital rape against their husbands.

Lastly, the petition proposed that a course on the Korean language and culture be given to foreign women before getting married to Korean men. Korean men should also learn about their wives� cultures and languages before getting married.

“These may not lessen cases of domestic violence, but it will give them both ample time to think before plunging into marriage. In any intercultural marriage, differences in norms, values, expectations and habits may lead to tension and conflict,� it said.

When asked about the petition, Philippine Ambassador to Seoul Aladdin Villacorte said he will have to carefully study the proposals from the association. He noted the proposals would affect not just Filipina wives, but all foreign wives, so it would need careful consideration by the proper Korean authorities.

Root of Problem

Kim, who is married to a Korean herself, said the problems are not just with Korean husbands. “If some of the Korean husbands have their faults, the Filipina wives also have their faults. It goes both ways,� she said.

Fr. Raymundo T. Sabio, chaplain of the Inchon Catholic International Community, has been in Korea for more than 10 years and has counseled many Filipinas who are married to Korean men.

In an interview with The Korea Times, Sabio said most of the problems between Korean-Filipina couples are because of cultural differences.

“Filipinas come here expecting their lives with their Korean husbands to be easy, but they encounter difficulties� In Philippine culture, women are treated differently. Women are put on a pedestal, and they are meant to be respected as ladies and mothers. In Korea, the women�s job is to take care of the husband, the house and the children,� he said.

Sabio said there are many problems are faced by those Filipinas who marry Koreans without any background about the language and culture. These are usually those Filipinas who marry Korean men through the Unification Church or mail-order bride agencies.

While the tales of abuse and heartbreak at the hands of Korean men grab headlines, Sabio noted there are also Koreans and Filipinas who end up happily married. He said these happy marriages are usually between couples who know about each others� culture and language.

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/11567/foreign-spouses-in-korea-speak-out-on-their-right

Korean immigration law demands immigrant wives live here for at least two years with an F-2 visa issued to spouses of Koreans before applying for Korean citizenship. If they divorce within two years and foreign spouses fail to prove in a courtroom that their Korean husbands caused the divorce, foreign wives must leave Korea before their visa expires.



Before I finally decided to marry my husband, I did my research first on what could happen if my marriage wasn’t successful. We don’t have divorce in the Philippines and an annulment is costly and time-consuming (Amy Perez?) A Filipina married to a Korean couldn’t simply end her marriage by divorcing her spouse in Korea. That divorce wouldn’t be valid in the Philippines; however, a Korean spouse could divorce a Filipina wife. That leaves her with nothing if she’s not a Korean citizen. What’s worse is that if they have a child, the custody would most likely be given to the Korean father. She will also have to leave the country when her visa expires. This is why I always tell those who ask me for advice about marrying a Korean that they should think about it really carefully.

Mail-order bride is a label applied to a woman who publishes her intent to marry someone from another, usually more financially developed, country. This term is considered offensive by some definitions.

Historically, mail-order brides were women who listed themselves in catalogs and were selected by men for marriage. Sometimes the men and women involved were citizens of different countries, e.g. women from European countries moving to the United States during the 18th and 19th centuries, and sometimes they involved citizens of the same country.

Although historically, mail-order brides came from well-developed areas to marry men in overseas colonies and frontier lands, the trend has reversed. Recently, the trend is primarily one of women who live in developing countries seeking men in more developed countries. The majority of these women are from Southeast Asia, countries of the former Soviet Union, and to a lesser extent, from Latin America. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, large numbers of eastern European women have advertised themselves in such a way; primarily being from Russia, Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova. In the past, international marriage agencies such as Cherry Blossoms allowed women to sign up to be listed in picture magazines; now the Internet has largely supplanted this method. Men who list themselves in such publications are referred to as mail-order husbands. Nations that often receive mail-order brides are the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Germany, and Australia.

The term "mail order bride" is simultaneously criticized by owners and customers of international marriage agencies, and used by them as an easily recognizable term.It has been pointed out that there is some discrepancy between how international adoptions are regarded ("saving a child") and how international marriages are regarded ("buying a wife").[5] It has been pointed out that "In feminist writing on mail-order brides, women’s and men’s voices remain absent. Instead, this scholarship assumes a one-to-one correspondence between the male gaze on the Web sites and women’s exploitation as domestic laborers in the home."





Philippines

The Philippines prohibits the business of organizing or facilitating marriages between Filipinas and foreign men. The Philippine congress enacted Republic Act 6955 or the Anti-Mail-Order Bride Law in 1990 as a result of stories that appeared in the local press and media about Filipinas being abused by their foreign husbands. Because of this, Filipinas often use "reverse publications" – publications in which men advertise themselves – to contact foreign men for marriage on behalf of the Filipina women.


South Korea

Though South Korean men regularly marry Chinese (largest group) and Vietnamese and Thai women through dating agencies, the below focuses primarily on the trend with respect to Filipina women, and the recent reports of South Korean men abusing their Filipina wives.

The Frequency of South Korean men marrying Filipina wives
The Korea Times reports that every year thousands of Korean men sign up for matchmaking to Filipina brides through agencies and mail-order. Based on data from the Korean government, there are 6,191 Filipinas in South Korea who are married to Koreans. This is only the women from the Philippines.

How South Korean men meet and choose Filipina wives
After contacting a mail-order agency, the majority of Filipina mail-order brides met their husbands by attending "show-ups," a meeting whereby a group of Filipino women are brought to meet a Korean man who is looking for a wife. In the show-up, the Korean man picks a prospective wife from among the group, and in just a matter of days, they get married.

Why South Korean men choose Filipina Wives
An anthropological study on Filipina wives of Korean men by professor Kim Min-jung of the Department of Cultural Anthropology at Kangwon National University, found that these Korean men find it difficult to marry Korean women, so they look for girls in poorer countries with inferior qualifications and difficult circumstances. The Korean men feel that because of the difficult circumstances out of which the Filipina women come, along with the major cultural differences and the language barrier, they "will not run away." Further, she said, Korean men characterize Southeast Asian women as girls who are friendly, work hard because they come from agrarian societies, and are "docile and obedient, able to speak English, and are familiar with Korean patriarchal culture." A gender imbalance of a majority male population in South Korea is also a reason for Korean men finding mail order brides, because of the difficulty finding a local woman.

Claims that South Korean Men are Violent toward Mail Order Brides
In November 2009, Philippine Ambassador to South Korea Luis Cruz warned Filipina(MY COMMNET-WARNING IS NOT ENOUGH-ACTIONS IS MORE BETTER) women against marrying Korean men. He said in recent months that the Philippine Embassy in Seoul has received complaints from Filipino wives of abuses committed by their Korean husbands that caused separation, divorce and abandonment. As language and cultural differences become an issue, the Filipina women are regarded as commodities bought for a price.[b]

sa mga pinay d2 at lalo n ung asa pinas, gusto nyo pa bng mag asawa ng Korikong para lang makaahon sa kahirapan?, gusto nyo bng magkapag-asawa ng tatay at lolo nyo n?,pagisipan po ninyong mabuti , di masama ung maghangad ng kaginhawaan sa buhay pero minsan ito ay naba2lewa.,kaya pag di nagustuhan ung ugali ng asawa tatakas n at mag TNT n ganun lang kasimple. kaya kung gusto nyong magasawa ng amoy lupa go lng ng masukol kau hehehhe.,joke lng po! ingat po kayo bk may taliling ung maging asawa nyo at mapatay kau.,un lng po. at mabuhay ang sulyap pinoy!

what if he was just pretending to be mentally ill para matakasan ang pagkakakulong,,

oo nga po???walang hiya tlaga tong mga korikong na to...SA mga kababayan ko pong mga FILIPINA huwag po kayong maghangad na mkapag asawa ng mga KOREANO kc sa totoo lang po ung mga KORIKONG na naghahanap ng mapangasawa sa ibang bansa katulad ng PINAS yan ang mga taong walang PERA o MAHIRAP dito sa korea..Wala kcing koreanang pumayag na magpakasal sa mga iyan kasi po walang PERA,paano na raw ang kinabukasan nila walang PERA..Kaya tumanda na yang mga KORIKONG wala pang asawa kc ayaw ng mga koreana sa kanila" NO MONEY',NO WEDDING""aka ng mga koreana...

Ang galing mo Tama ka jan.. hahahaha!!! kabit kabitn pa nga e.. hays!

talaga lang ha?parang alam nyo lahat ng koryano ha.wala pala pera bkit andami parin gustong magpakasal sa koryano.ed isa karin na mangagamit una kang manloloko pag pumatol ka.kabayan nag popost ka ng ganyan baka MARAMING MGALIT SAYO.WAG NYO LAHATIN NG KORYANO DKA GAGANYANIN NG ISANG TAO KUNG WALA KANG GINAGAWA SA KANILA.WAG KANG MGTYAGA JAN SA KOREA DUN KA SA PINAS MARAMING MABBABAIT DUN.BAKA SAKALI MGKARON KA NG MARAMING PERA.HINDI AKO ASAWA NG KORYANO PERO HINDI LAHAT CLA ANG MY PAGKAKAMALI.SAN MO GISTO PUMATOL DUN SA PINOY NA EWAN.GINAGAMIT ANG MGA PINAY SA KALUNGKUTAN KUNO NILA.MAGISP MUNA KAYO BAGO KAYO MAGBITAW NG SALITA.BAKA SA BANDANG HULI NA SINASABI MONG WALNGYANG KORYANO DUN KA HUMINGI NG TULONG.BAGO KA MAGSALITA ALAMIN MO MUNA DUN SA PINATAY KUNG ANO TOTOO,YUN MGA GUMAGAWA LANG GANYAN YUNG ALANG PINAGARALAN PERO YUN MY MGA PINAGARALAN D GAGAWA NG GANYAN KAYA NYO LAHATIN.

SORRY KA PAGPUMATOL KA SA MY TULILING,KAHIT SA PINOY NGA MY SAYAD O WALA PUMAPATAY DIN E.DAHIL MY DAHILAN.

tama ms. zhel1976 di lahat ng koreano masasama,parang pinoy din nmn cla my mbabait at my masasama....asawa ng ate ko koreano di nmn sya salbahe...nkapgwork ko sa korea for 6mos.at mga nkasama ko sa work my puso nmn..minsan kc di sa koreano ang problema minsan sa mga kababayan din ntin pero dko nilalaht.kc my matitino nmng pilipino sa korea...kahit d2 nmn satin sa pinas my mga ngkakabit kabitan din nmn.kahit san sulok tai ng mundo di nawawala ung mga yan....mababait po ang mga korean pipol n chirstian sa pg kakaalam ko....meri xmas po sa lahat...God Bless us all....

totoo yan,tayo naman kasing pinoy ang kamalian natin d natin nakikita e.kaya yun ibang pinoy kung mgsalita akala mo walang bahid,pagbasahin mo sa mga salita nila kayong mg pinay wag kayong magaasawa ng koryano.aba kelan pa kayo nagkaron ng karapatan para magbawal sa isang taong gusto,at san mo gusto pumatol sa pinoy na may asawa anak sa pinas.alam nyo kung hangang saan lang kayo?????d nyo ba naririnig minsan cnasabi ng mga lalaki jan kahit anong itsura daw ng babae,pwede na daw yun laman tiyan din yun,pampaalis ng lungkot. babae ako masakit para sakin makarining aq ng ganun klaseng salita ng lalaki,pero sabi nga normal na daw yan pag mapababae man o lalaki normal na daw yan mga ginagawang ganyan.halos lahat naman my mga kopol my asawa o ala,dko cnasabing maliniz aq pero dapat nga pagisipan natin mabuti nadapa kana na sa umpisa susundan mo pa b?at tungkol sa koryano hindi lahat sila masasama kung lahat sila masasma baka lahat ng ibang lahi patayin sa korea,pumunta kayo ng mga middle east baka dun maging matino buhay nyo.kung tutuusin ang mga koryano ayaw ng cnungaling na magccnungaling ka tapos bandang huli mahuhuli ka din sa kalokohan mo.malaki mgtiwala yan sa tao.pero ang pinoy maraming dahilan keso ganun,ganyan maraming kasinungalingan,yun iba kung ano anu dinadahilan para mariliz lang at makapagbakasyon lang,pag d pinayagan walngya na amo nila, ay naku makuncensxa sana yun mga ganyan klaseng tao.pilipno q pero hindi din ako sang ayon sa mga gumagawa ng d maganda...tamaan wag magalit

Madame, sensya na pinakialaman ko na profile pics. mo masakit kasi sa leeg, patagilid kong tignan,, hindi ko tuloy makita yong kaseksihan at maflawless mong katawan........hehehe....Peace po.........Save image as mo na lang po then upload mo para sa profile pic. mo, para mas lalo pang makita kagandahan mo........

boy034037 wrote:Madame, sensya na pinakialaman ko na profile pics. mo masakit kasi sa leeg, patagilid kong tignan,, hindi ko tuloy makita yong kaseksihan at maflawless mong katawan........hehehe....Peace po.........Save image as mo na lang po then upload mo para sa profile pic. mo, para mas lalo pang makita kagandahan mo........

gnun b zhel! goodluck