National Pension System (NPS): Security or Subsidy?
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Papayag ba kayo na ang NPS contribution natin ay mapunta sa SSS?
National Pension System (NPS): Security or Subsidy?
National Pension System (NPS): Security or Subsidy?
More than two years have passed after the Filipino migrant workers in Korea expressed strong oppo-sition to the Bilateral Social Security Agreement between the Philippines and South Korea.
Different sectors, especially the EPS workers, joined the campaign by gathering signatures to show their rejection of the Bilateral Agreement signed by the Philippine Foreign Affairs Secretary, Alberto G. Romulo and the Minister of the Korean Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (MOFAT), Ban Ki-Moon. Until today, the position of the EPS workers remains the same - refusal to compromise.
Under the Bilateral Agreement, the EPS workers are now entitled to social security benefits such as retirement, disability, accident, and death insurance as part of the benefits program of the Social Security System (SSS). As a result, the worker’s monthly NPS contribution which is supposedly to be claimed by them in lump sum after the end of their contract is now impossible since the said contribution shall be forwarded to social security agency’s account. While those workers whose contract are not under Employment Permit System cannot also claim the said benefits as they shall also be covered under the Korean National Pension System (NPS).
Moreover, this measure could eventually lead to corruption. The money which is the fruit of the EPS workers’ years of hard labor can become an easy target for some greedy government officials in the Philippines, particularly in the social security agency. There are also speculations claiming that if this money gets into the hands of the agency, it will be allocated to other government agencies. When all these happen, the time and effort spent by the workers in working and waiting for their well-deserved benefits may just end up in frustration and grief.
The workers do not only have the right to be informed and consulted but, more importantly, they have the right to make decisions on issues concerning the status of their NPS contribution and other labor-related issues.
The workers’ right to decide where to allocate their contribution and benefits granted by the NPS of Korea should be upheld. The Philippine government should realize how miserable is the life of an OFW and how necessary is the NPS in the reestablishment of their economic condition upon returning back.
On the other hand, the Korean government should not allow the NPS contributions and benefits to be sent into the hands of some corrupt officials. As Sangsu Lee of the Ministry of Labor of Korea expressed during last year’s celebration of International Migrants’ Day, he wished that the migrant workers can go back home with “a big smile on their faces.” The Korean government should make sure their decisions do not betray their intentions for the migrant workers.
Different sectors, especially the EPS workers, joined the campaign by gathering signatures to show their rejection of the Bilateral Agreement signed by the Philippine Foreign Affairs Secretary, Alberto G. Romulo and the Minister of the Korean Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (MOFAT), Ban Ki-Moon. Until today, the position of the EPS workers remains the same - refusal to compromise.
Under the Bilateral Agreement, the EPS workers are now entitled to social security benefits such as retirement, disability, accident, and death insurance as part of the benefits program of the Social Security System (SSS). As a result, the worker’s monthly NPS contribution which is supposedly to be claimed by them in lump sum after the end of their contract is now impossible since the said contribution shall be forwarded to social security agency’s account. While those workers whose contract are not under Employment Permit System cannot also claim the said benefits as they shall also be covered under the Korean National Pension System (NPS).
Moreover, this measure could eventually lead to corruption. The money which is the fruit of the EPS workers’ years of hard labor can become an easy target for some greedy government officials in the Philippines, particularly in the social security agency. There are also speculations claiming that if this money gets into the hands of the agency, it will be allocated to other government agencies. When all these happen, the time and effort spent by the workers in working and waiting for their well-deserved benefits may just end up in frustration and grief.
The workers do not only have the right to be informed and consulted but, more importantly, they have the right to make decisions on issues concerning the status of their NPS contribution and other labor-related issues.
The workers’ right to decide where to allocate their contribution and benefits granted by the NPS of Korea should be upheld. The Philippine government should realize how miserable is the life of an OFW and how necessary is the NPS in the reestablishment of their economic condition upon returning back.
On the other hand, the Korean government should not allow the NPS contributions and benefits to be sent into the hands of some corrupt officials. As Sangsu Lee of the Ministry of Labor of Korea expressed during last year’s celebration of International Migrants’ Day, he wished that the migrant workers can go back home with “a big smile on their faces.” The Korean government should make sure their decisions do not betray their intentions for the migrant workers.
Last edited by misterdj on Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:45 pm; edited 8 times in total
dave- FEWA - Administrative Adviser
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NPS
NPS lump sum should directly be given to us workers hindi sa mga corrupt na gov't agencies.
Thanks po sa concern.
Thanks po sa concern.
Elizer Penaranda- Super Moderator
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salamat po
i hope some of the government officials may realized each difficulties of every ofw....di lang yung kanila na lang....they're not the one who worked for that money...
amie sison- SULYAPINOY Literary Section Editor
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It's time to speakout!!!
Kabayan,
It's time to express our voice. SPEAK OUT!!! VOTE OUR NPS POLL NOW!!!
misterdj
It's time to express our voice. SPEAK OUT!!! VOTE OUR NPS POLL NOW!!!
misterdj
dave- FEWA - Administrative Adviser
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Re: National Pension System (NPS): Security or Subsidy?
Bomoto na ako....
Sama sama tayo para pigilan ang binabalak nilang pag-angkin sa ating pinaghirapan. Ito lang inaasahan natin pagkatapos ng contract natin dito sa Korea.
More power
Sama sama tayo para pigilan ang binabalak nilang pag-angkin sa ating pinaghirapan. Ito lang inaasahan natin pagkatapos ng contract natin dito sa Korea.
More power
Emart- Board Member
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NO WAY
MGA KABABAYAN:
PANAHON NA PARA PAG USAP NATIN ULIT ANG USAPING ITO
MAKIALAM TAYO DITO AT IPAALAM SA LAHAT NA MGA OFWs NA HINDI TAYO PAPAYAG NA BASTA BASTA NA LAMANG KUKUNIN NG SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM (SSS) ANG PERANG PINAGHIRAPAN NATIN-KUNG SAAN DUGO'T PAWIS ANG ATING PINUHUNAN
IPAGLABAN NATIN ANG ATING KARAPATAN
MAGKAISA TAYO!
SUPORTAHAN ANG KAMPANYA LABAN SA MAPAGSAMANTALANG AHENSYANG ITO.
VOTE NOW! NOT TOMORROW- BUT TODAY..THE DAYS ARE NUMBERED!!!...
SAY NO TO SSS, YES TO NPS !
PANAHON NA PARA PAG USAP NATIN ULIT ANG USAPING ITO
MAKIALAM TAYO DITO AT IPAALAM SA LAHAT NA MGA OFWs NA HINDI TAYO PAPAYAG NA BASTA BASTA NA LAMANG KUKUNIN NG SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM (SSS) ANG PERANG PINAGHIRAPAN NATIN-KUNG SAAN DUGO'T PAWIS ANG ATING PINUHUNAN
IPAGLABAN NATIN ANG ATING KARAPATAN
MAGKAISA TAYO!
SUPORTAHAN ANG KAMPANYA LABAN SA MAPAGSAMANTALANG AHENSYANG ITO.
VOTE NOW! NOT TOMORROW- BUT TODAY..THE DAYS ARE NUMBERED!!!...
SAY NO TO SSS, YES TO NPS !
reeve- Co-Admin
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National Pension System (NPS): Security or Subsidy?
Ano? kukunin ng SSS ang NPS natin.. BAKIT!!!!!!? di pa ba sapat ang Monthly Contribution na hinuhulog natin sa kanila? worth 1,500 pesos din yun ah? OK LANG SILA!!!! at tsaka what is the purpose at kukunin nila ang NPS natin? para sila lang ang mabuhay sa Pinas? NO WAY!!!! sa tingin ko wala na silang maibigay na pera sa mga nag a-avail ng pension sa kanila kya pati NPS natin pkikialaman..........
naniski- Mamamayan
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NPS TO SSS NO WAY
ANG KAY PEDRO AY DAPAT MAPUNTA KAY PEDRO, AT ANG KAY JUAN DAPAT MAPUNTA RIN KAY JUAN KAYA MGA KABABAYAN PANAHON NA PARA MAGKAISA TAYO UPANG IPADAMA ANG PAGTUTOL O PAGHADLANG NATIN SA HINDI KANAISNAIS AT HINDI MAKATARUNGAN NA BALAKIN NG ATING GOBYERNO.
IBOTO PO NATIN NO TO SSS
IBOTO PO NATIN NO TO SSS
sainofos- Masipag na Mamamayan
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NPS TO SSS?....ANO SILA HILO!!!
HUWAG NATING PAYAGAN NA IBA ANG MAKINABANG SA PINAGPAGURAN NATIN DITO SA KOREA
lyn- Mamamayan
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anak ng teteng ..no way
sa pinas nga kandarapa kandaduling paSapaSa ang pagayos ng mga dokomento daming paikot ikot hilong talilong..pati d2 s papasukin pakikialaman pa dicila magtumbling..mahirap na yan pag napunta pa yang nps na yan sa pinas pinagugulo lang.sa pag uwi natin dala natin itong kontribusyon na ito,hindi yung pag uwi pa makukuha labo ah..dito na nga iibahin pa. ,,,
ernex- Super Sipag na Mamamayan
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No way...
ano cla hilo...nagpapaka-hirap tayo malayo sa mga mahal natin sa buhay...tiniis ang lahat ng hirap at sacrifices makarating lang d2 sa Korea para lang mabigyan ng magandang future ang ating family....matupad even the simplest dream natin sa buhay...then yung pinagpaguran natin iba ang makikinabang - UNFAIR yata yun!
tayo ang nag-pagod para sa NPS na yan ...tayo mga EPS workers ang nagtanim...then iba ang aani? ano cla hilo....NO WAY!
dknight_31...
tayo ang nag-pagod para sa NPS na yan ...tayo mga EPS workers ang nagtanim...then iba ang aani? ano cla hilo....NO WAY!
dknight_31...
dknight- Masipag na Mamamayan
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YES 4 NPS! NO 4 SSS
TAMA MGA KABAYAN HUWANG NATIN PAHINTULUTAN NA KUKUNIN NALANG BASTA-BASTA NG SSS ANG ATING NPS CONTRIBUTION!
MGA BUWAYANG GOV'T. OFFICIAL TAMA NA! SOBRA NA!!! HINDI NA BA KAYO NAAWA SA MGA MAMAYANG NAGSUSUMIKAP AT NAGTITIIS NG HIRAP SA IBANG BANSA LALO NG D2 SA KOREA! HINDI NYO BA ALAM KUNG ANONG HIRAP ANG MGA DINARANAS NAMIN D2??? GUSTO RIN NAMAN NAMING UMUWI NG MASAYA AT MAGINHAWA PAGKATAPOS NG AMING 3TAONG KONTRATA!
HINDI PA BA SAPAT SA INYO ANG AMING BUWANANG CONTRIBUTION!!!
ANG AMING NPS CONTRIBUTION AY PARA SA AMING PAMILYA HINDI PARA SA INYONG MGA BUWAYA!
SALAMAT PO
MGA BUWAYANG GOV'T. OFFICIAL TAMA NA! SOBRA NA!!! HINDI NA BA KAYO NAAWA SA MGA MAMAYANG NAGSUSUMIKAP AT NAGTITIIS NG HIRAP SA IBANG BANSA LALO NG D2 SA KOREA! HINDI NYO BA ALAM KUNG ANONG HIRAP ANG MGA DINARANAS NAMIN D2??? GUSTO RIN NAMAN NAMING UMUWI NG MASAYA AT MAGINHAWA PAGKATAPOS NG AMING 3TAONG KONTRATA!
HINDI PA BA SAPAT SA INYO ANG AMING BUWANANG CONTRIBUTION!!!
ANG AMING NPS CONTRIBUTION AY PARA SA AMING PAMILYA HINDI PARA SA INYONG MGA BUWAYA!
SALAMAT PO
xfiles- SULYAP' Photojournalist/Video Editor
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KAPAL MO...
KONG SINO KA MAN NA BUMOTO NG "YES?"???
ANG KAPAL MO...
PWEDE BA MAGMURA DITO???
NAKAKAPANGINIG KA NG BUTO...
ANG KAPAL MO...
PWEDE BA MAGMURA DITO???
NAKAKAPANGINIG KA NG BUTO...
suzuki125- Kagalang-galang na Mamamayan
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Re: National Pension System (NPS): Security or Subsidy?
Pagbabarilin ang mga buwaya at mga kakampi ng mga buwaya....
Emart- Board Member
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two thumbs down
shiro
tiko_rusl- Super Sipag na Mamamayan
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ANDWE!!!!
NO,NO,NO,NO WAY!!!!
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chayen- Senador
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Re: National Pension System (NPS): Security or Subsidy?
no to SSS.......
yes to NPS ako.....
kaswerte nman ng taga SSS na yan kung s knila lng mpupunta....
yes to NPS ako.....
kaswerte nman ng taga SSS na yan kung s knila lng mpupunta....
neon_rq- Co-Admin
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ano ba yan
grabe!!!!!! pati ba naman hanggang dito dadalihin p anamna ba????aba aba???????
wag na ,ang hirap yata kitain ng pera dito.....tapos hahawakan daw nila o itatago KUNOOOOOOOOOOOO......
lokohin nila lolo nilang panotttttt..
kahit ilang beses akong tanungin isang malaking HINDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..............ang aking isasagot...
salamat po....
wag na ,ang hirap yata kitain ng pera dito.....tapos hahawakan daw nila o itatago KUNOOOOOOOOOOOO......
lokohin nila lolo nilang panotttttt..
kahit ilang beses akong tanungin isang malaking HINDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..............ang aking isasagot...
salamat po....
onatano1331- Baranggay Captain 2nd Term
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Re: National Pension System (NPS): Security or Subsidy?
mga kababayan ko,
HINDI PO KAMI SANGAYON D2....!!!!
A BIG NO TO SSS....
YES 4 NPS!
nomu shiro from Pyongtek team.
HINDI PO KAMI SANGAYON D2....!!!!
A BIG NO TO SSS....
YES 4 NPS!
nomu shiro from Pyongtek team.
uragon321- Mamamayan
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Re: National Pension System (NPS): Security or Subsidy?
by uragon321 on Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:25 pm
mga kababayan ko,
HINDI PO KAMI SANGAYON D2....!!!!
A BIG NO TO SSS....
YES 4 NPS!
nomu shiro from Pyongtek team.
hello mga kabayan natin dyan sa Pyongtek,
We really have to voice out our opposition against NPS-SSS agreement. Please visit out portal page and read the "No to NPS-SSS Campaign". If malayo po kayo sa Hyehwadong at walang time pumunta to sign-up your signature in person, please download the signature form nalang and let all your friends there signed it. Please send the signature forms to FEWA office or to the given address. You can also contact me at 010-9294-4365. It's time to act now! Huwag po tayong maghintay na maging huli na ang lahat! Thank you!
We really have to voice out our opposition against NPS-SSS agreement. Please visit out portal page and read the "No to NPS-SSS Campaign". If malayo po kayo sa Hyehwadong at walang time pumunta to sign-up your signature in person, please download the signature form nalang and let all your friends there signed it. Please send the signature forms to FEWA office or to the given address. You can also contact me at 010-9294-4365. It's time to act now! Huwag po tayong maghintay na maging huli na ang lahat! Thank you!
dave- FEWA - Administrative Adviser
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gobyernong kurakot
no,no,no,no,no,no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ayokong pumayag sa bulsa lng ng mga taong gobyerno mapupunta ang pinaghirapan ntin........
jomar_nova2001- Mamamayan
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hind po!!!
hind po kmi sangayon na mapunta ang pinaghirapan natin sa sss...isang malaking kalukohan na yun...
dens0718- Super Sipag na Mamamayan
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no to sss... yes to nps
[b]mga walang kaluluwa kyo... akala nyo ba masarap ang buhay nmin d2?mahirap ang malayo sa aming mga pamilya pero sa kagustuhan nming mabigyan cla ng magandang buhay ay nagsasakripisyo kmi d2 para sa knila..ROMULO NERI...kulang ba ang kinita nyo sa NBN-ZTE scam? bkit pati pera nmin d2 kukunin nyo?may utak kb o bk naman puro alikabok na bao ng ulo mo?nakakasuka ang pagkatao mo!!!! utos kc ng amo mong pandak!!!! GLORIA PASISTA PAHIRAP SA MASA!!!!! NO 2 SSS!!!! YES 2 NPS!!!!
crismhel32- Mamamayan
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NPS NOW SSS?
WHAT ARE THEY BIG REASON WHY?BAKIT? AT ANO NAMAN ANG DAHILAN...SANGKATUTAK TLAGA ANG MGA BUWAYA SA PINAS!!!ANAK PAWIS KA NA NGA IKAW PA ANG MAGPAPAGATAS SA MGA KUMAG NA YAN,,,,HAY KAWAWA TAYONG EPS NYAN,,,KATULAD KO RE CONTRACT AT HINDI KO PA BALAK KUNIN ANG PENSION KO,PERO SA NALAMAN KO PARANG GUSTO KO NG TUMAKBO PAPUNTANG NPS...NO AKO DYAN!!!
jeanmarie- Mamamayan
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prince_rainier06- Super Sipag na Mamamayan
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Re: National Pension System (NPS): Security or Subsidy?
huag nyo ng pakialaman ang sa amin mga buwaya kayo!! mageeleksyon na nman kasi kya pti nananahimik nting nps gusto lunukin ng mga hunghang at matatakaw na yan!!!magkaisa tayo mga kaibigan sa s.korea.
tan08- Mamamayan
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